Wednesday, 30 January 2008

Bad IDea


Since I called yesterday for a Conservative MP to be hanged in Parliament Square, let’s redress the imbalance this afternoon by regurgitating a Conservative Party press release practically verbatim.

It concerns a little remarked-on side effect of the national ID card scheme which will make life a small misery for tens of thousands of people in rural and outlying areas of the country, and particularly Scotland. I hand you over to my Tory puppet-masters lizard controllers friends from Central Office:

Everyone will have to travel to a biometric scan centre to have their biometrics taken. There are 11 centres planned in Scotland: Aberdeen, Dumfries, Dundee, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Inverness, Kilmarnock, Oban, Selkirk, Stirling and Wick. This could result in people travelling hundreds of miles at great cost to visit their nearest biometric centre, this is on top of the £93 cost of the ID card itself.

With just about 5 million people in Scotland, the bean counters have decided in their wisdom that these 11 processing centres will be plenty. (Anyone who’s ever had to queue in the rain at the passport office in Glasgow may take a different view.) But what may look sufficient on paper takes on a rather more depressing air when you sit down and work out what it will mean for ordinary people.

In actual fact someone (I forget who) crunched the numbers of processing centres per head of population a couple of years back and came up with some pretty startling conclusions. Now that the centres have been earmarked, we can see just how much extra hassle and difficulty the government plan to put you to when they take your fingerprints.

For someone in Gordon Brown’s constituency in Fife, for example, the process of going to Edinburgh to get your biometrics scanned will merely be intrusive, time-consuming and tedious. But for many others, it will be downright ridiculous. If you live in beautiful Campbeltown, for example, the round trip to your nearest processing centre, which is in Oban, is a full 174 miles – a trip of nearly 5 hours (on a good day). In fact, the geography of Scotland is such that tens, even hundreds of thousands of people are going to find that going to get their biometrics recorded is a real imposition. (The same is, of course, true of the rest of the UK, as well.)

The true insanity of the scheme is demonstrated most starkly by the fate that awaits the good people of Orkney and Shetland – some 40,000 souls in all. There are apparently to be no processing centres for ID cards on the islands – any of the Scottish islands, as far as I can see – and so every single inhabitant of Orkney, Shetland and all the others is going to have to go to the mainland to be registered.

The nearest centre is in Wick, which is nearly 200 miles away from Shetland. But it's not too difficult to get there. From Shetland's capital, Lerwick, simply hop on a ferry to Kirkwall in Orkney (7 and a half hours), then it's a short bus transfer to Burwick (45 minutes), a ferry across to John O'Groats (45 minutes) and another bus to Wick (about an hour). But make sure you don't show up at lunchtime; there's usually a queue.

OK, I'm being a wee bit disingenuous. You can fly to Aberdeen in only an hour. Why not book flights for yourself, your spouse and two kids and make a wee holiday of it (if a day in Aberdeen can be called a holiday)? Well, the bad news is that if you want to go next Monday, Expedia are currently quoting £1,236.80 for the privilege of taking your family to be barcoded. All of which puts the cost of ID cards in stark perspective. Still, it's cheaper than not going at all; a fine of up to £1000, denial of access to government services and all the rest of it. No, suck it up, citizen; this is the future, and there are no exceptions for the old, the infirm, the sick and the lame.

I’d suggest, at the risk of teetering on the brink of Godwin’s Law, that it would be appropriate if they laid on special trains to take us to be processed, but I doubt the fucking things would run on time.

Why do we put up with these people?


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Comments:
I don't know what these English bastards think they're playing at, but the Scottish Executive has made it quite clear that the cards won't be compulsory in Scotland, so we won't have to bother visiting their mini-Lubyankas.

Unless, of course, thats another SNP election pledge that's about to be ditched.
 
When I visited the Hebrides a few years ago, I was amazed to meet people who claimed never to have been to the mainland. They are in for some excitement it seems when Labour regains control of its northern voter farms.
 
I wonder how much carbon these trips will generate and how that will fuck up the stupid "targets"(bet they wont count).
I would like to suggest sarcastically that these stupid centers could be mobile like ice cream vans but they would probably do it.
 
Anonymous 5:37

Don't bring the English into this, the whole thing is touted by the British government run by Gordon Brown (a Scot) and first promulgated by a Mr Anthony Blair (Born Edinburgh) You only have yourselves to blame, not the English for this one.
 
"Why do we put up with these people?"

Mr E, you have posed the central conundrum of the age.

I look in vain in the Yellow Pages for a supplier of piano wire.
 
"the Scottish Executive has made it quite clear that the cards won't be compulsory in Scotland"

Oh, sure they won't. You'll only have to be "enrolled" to travel anywhere in the EU. Or claim benefits. Or pay tax. (All reserved powers, remember.)

What Eck says is that you won't need to carry a card with you all the time. But that's what Gordon's lot is saying now, too.

Check this out.
 
Staggering. People will actually have to pay thousands of pounds to have their identity stolen by a corrupt and intrusive government.

It is difficult not to get irate over every aspect of this fucking stupid ID card scheme.
 
The UK government have made it quite clear that the statutory purposes if the scheme include such reserved matters as immigration (indeed that particular one, stopping the feelthy foreigners, is their big selling point). So the Scottish Parliament and Executive has no say in the matter. What's more, the legislation allows the Home Secretary to suck any data that Scottish bodies collect for Scottish purposes into the scheme (s9 of the Identity Cards Act). That's even without the broad "information sharing" measures being worked on at the MoJ
 
People - listen to what I am saying to you. Three of my grandparents lived under Nazism, one under Stalinism (the real thing, I stress). I grew up hearing about everything - everything - that happened to them. Unspeakable, all of it. And they were the ones who survived.

What your government is planning is pure totalitarianism, nothing more no less. The language in the leaked document is identical to that used by my grandparents' erstwhile leaders. You cannot let this happen.Not only for yourselves,but for those of us in Australia and in other countries still free of the plague. You must resist this absolutely.
 
Perhaps it would be cheaper to employ tattoo artists to go from door to door with our bar code numbers so we ccan have them imprinted on our foreheads.
 
Salmond will say anything that helps drive wedges between his Scottish District "government" and the Regional "government" in Westminster. It's hugely in his interests to do so.

I live in the Northern Isles and the thought of having to go to Wick - Wick! Jeez..... - for anything is depressing enough, but when it involves going off there to get my special government tattoo (sorry - Godwin again) - it's just more than a body should have to bear. Oh well. Looking on the bright side, at least I'll be able to work in a visit to Tesco's.
 
Madness - and for all the wrong reasons.
 
Unusually behind the times Mr. E. The document leaked from NIS (http://www.scribd.com/doc/1953958/NIS-Options-Analysis-Outcome) the other day showed that they were backtracking heavily on this - "only 10%" of us will now need processing, in these centres, apparently.

Now you'll just have to fill in a form when you want a driving licence, come of age, go shopping, etc etc. So much for a "gold standard" of security.

The scheme is, I believe, dead. That said, the more outrage generated about it the better...can never be too sure.
 
I hadn't seen that bit of the leaked document, Centaur. If so, then I stand partially corrected.

(Of course, it's not much use for that 10%.)
 
My suggested remedy would to not have a centre within 200 miles of London.

Matt
 
11 centers and 5 million people. Lets make this easy and say that will be 500,000 per centre.

Lets now assume that processing 1 person takes 30 minutes, all up.

Lets also assume that a civil servant works a 37 hour week for 40 weeks a year(5 weeks holiday, 8 days statutory holiday, 2 weeks training, 1 week sick and a couple of weeks "admin" work)

So to process that many people in a year will require 178 bureacrats, along with managers, offices, support staff, IT systems (hahahaha) and the rest of the paraphanalia.

And that will be per office!

I could go on but the thought of working out costs is so depressing.
 
I suppose MP's and celeberities will be excepmt of have some special arrangement like they do for tax filing.

Bastards

PS good idea MAtt Wardman
 
Matt Wardman/GS

The best and most bureaucratic idea would be to have A-Cs processed in Nottingham, D-Fs processed in Manchester, G-Js processed in Bristol etc etc. This way the government could avoid a too transparent subsidy for the railway companies and raise (another) fortune on petrol tax into the bargain. A win-win position for those who rule us.
 
It might be dead, Centaur, but it hasn't stopped moving yet. I won't be happy till it's six feet under, in a lead coffin. With locks.
 
Sam Duncan,

Don't forget the silver bullet and stake through the heart. You can never be too safe with things like this.
 
If people go to those centres, then they have only themselves to blame.

I wonder how many of the people commenting here will put their principles first, and not give in.
 
Special trains. Yup. Good idea. You could leave your suitcases on the side when you get out.

Get separated into workers and wasters.

Get your gold fillings recycled.
 
Ooops! Godwin's Law
 
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